Fantasyland Expansion impact on Magic Kingdom will be huge

The Disney Parks blog recently announced that February 11, 2011 will be the last day to visit Mickey’s Toontown Fair. That’s nice information to have for those planning vacations. Unfortunately, you really have to plan more than 6 months out these days just to get the good dining reservations. So with that in mind, here’s what I’m hearing about latest changes to plans for the Fantasyland Expansion. Your mileage may vary. Plan accordingly.

ToonTown Fair will be closed to start work on Phase 2 and a new mini-phase (phase 1.5 aka Operation Dumbo Drop Part Deux (my term not Disney’s)) that will allow Disney to quickly get one attraction back open after the closure. Even with the quick turn around expected on phase 1.5, the Magic Kingdom will still be operating at a reduced capacity for most of 2011 and the beginning of 2012. That means fewer rides per guest for any given day. Unfortunately, Disney has announced no major plans, other than to delay refurbishment on other attractions, to deal with this reduction in guest experience for 2011.

I have heard that some attractions will have to go down for scheduled maintenance (Bears, Splash, and Big Thunder), but Disney will try and add some next-generation interactive queues during these time periods to improve guest experience when the attractions come back up. I hope Disney is able to come up with some sort of plan for 2011 to increase the options for guests beyond moving Mickey and the Princesses to Main Street. A couple shows perhaps? I bet they’re missing that theater in Tomorrowland right about now. Maybe they could move those circus tents from Toontown Fair and do something with them.

After Mickey’s Toontown Fair closes, the next attraction to go down will be Dumbo. Right now they’re deciding if it will close Summer of 2011 or if they can keep it through the end of 2011. That depends on when they need that plot of land for the rest of the Beauty and the Beast part of Phase 1 and how long it will take to move Dumbo’s mechanisms to its new home by the Speedway. The new Dumbo with two separate operating sides and one central next-gen queue could open as soon as June of 2012. But construction on that will require that half of the Speedway go down starting as soon as January 2011. So that’s even more reduced capacity for the Magic Kingdom in 2011 and 2012.

Multiple sources tell me that Snow White’s Scary Adventures is on the chopping block sometime in either mid 2011 or late 2012 with the eventual goal of moving the princesses, who got evicted when their castles were cut from Phase 2, into that space for meet and greets. I know it has been announced that Disney’s princesses will be housed on in Town Square temporarily, but that’s not their permanent home. You can sort of squeeze Mickey and the gang in there thematically, but Princesses are very out of place.

Again, I really suggest Disney look at the old Fantasyland Skyway Station as a possible princess meet and greet location; just place a scale model of Sleeping Beauty castle (the Eyvind Earle version) on top of the hill instead of the swiss chalet and hold photos down below. That’s a much better option than closing a ride with a tie to Walt Disney’s first animated feature. That said, Disney may not see a point to having two rides in the park themed to a ride through the dwarves’ mine once Barnstormer is rethemed. I think the difference is large enough to keep them both, there should always be a traditional dark ride at the Magic Kingdom. Still, if you want to save Snow White’s Scary Adventures, now might be the time to write. Don’t let them pull another Mr. Toad on you.

I’m really curious to hear what changes are being made to the plans for Phase II and III of the Fantasyland Expansion. The Be Our Guest restaurant should be great and signs are shaping up that Voyage of The Little Mermaid will be a solid C or D attraction. But the boys are woefully under-represented and just retheming Barnstormer to a Snow White Mine Ride won’t do it. What would you like to see them add?

Update: There is an alternate take on what’s happening to Barnstormer while they figure out Phase 3.. This plan keeps the Toontown fair circus tents right where they are for now and makes Dumbo 2.0, a new Casey Jr themed eatery, a ‘Great Goofini’ themed version of the Barnstormer, and some sort of show/meet and greet inside the circus tents into a mini-land. I’m told the tentative name for this concept is Storybook Circus Land.

I like this idea in that it is a temporary use of the tents while they figure out what to do with that plot of land (hint: it’s not a Tinker bell and Fairy themed mini-land), it let’s them put that money toward adding a new ride where the Sleeping Beauty Chateau was going to go (Phase 2), and it means there won’t be a second Snow White ride based on the mine scene so the park is more likely to save Snow White’s Scary Adventures from destruction… but finding a new meet and great for the princesses becomes more important. This doesn’t change the timeline I described above that much as it really only covers now through the end of Phase 1.5, it just changes what attractions will be called.

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27 Responses to Fantasyland Expansion impact on Magic Kingdom will be huge

  1. Some notes on the Fantasyland Expansion's impact on the Magic Kingdom next year – http://bit.ly/gdMZia – expect capacity issues at Disney.

  2. MC says:

    Barnstormer isn’t getting re-themed to Snow White – it’s getting a possibly Goofy-related circus overlay that will tie in with the circus “miniland” surrounding the Dumbos. The rumored new Snow White attraction will occupy the space once slated for the Cinderella/Aurora meet and greets.

  3. MC says:

    And Snow White’s Scary Adventures is OK, I guess, but it’s NO Mr. Toad :)

  4. MC says:

    Nice!

    One of the D23 renderings from 2009 showed a Casey Jr food stand in the background, so I’m glad that idea has stuck around…

    I’m looking forward to finding out more about this rumored new Snow White ride…

  5. leighann says:

    I read your update, but im still pretty sure I heard the rumor to be that Barnstormer was being rethemed AS WELL AS a Snow White Mine Car – in which case it would be silly to keep Snow White’s Scary Adventures open…plus, to be honest, that ride has kinda seen its time. Theres nothing really “fun” about it like Mr Toad or Peter Pan…I think its best to be closed and make room for something new, especially when there will be another Snow White ride anyway.

  6. Deb Wills says:

    RT @TheDisneyBlog: Some notes on the Fantasyland Expansion's impact on the Magic Kingdom next year – http://bit.ly/gdMZia – expect capac …

  7. Stephanie says:

    I like the idea of a Storybook Circus land. It would, in my mind, almost make up for the move of Dumbo, which I have not been a fan of – at all. I really don’t want a Dwarves mine coaster. It’s a fun idea, BUT it’s another ride that excludes. Traditional dark rides are for almost everyone. There are a lot of people of varying ages who do not like coasters, not even small ones. I would rather see them keep the current dark ride space for Snow White, but change the ride itself to be more focused on Snow White and the Dwarves and less on the Queen. I know the film is scary, but a lot of kids have been scared of the appropriately named ‘ Scary Adventures’ and when you have a lot of people who are scared of your rides…they will get skipped. So wouldn’t it be in Disney’s best interest to keep that space for Snow White, make it less scary, make it more fun, and therefore attract guests of all ages? They have other scare rides in the Magic Kingdom that make more sense, like Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean.

  8. New rumors for the Fantasyland Expansion – http://bit.ly/gdMZia expect capacity issues at Disney due to closed rides at the Magic Kingdom

  9. Just updated Fantasyland Expansion rumors with an alternate take that might save Snow White Scary Adventures http://bit.ly/gdMZia

  10. Empress Eve says:

    RT @TheDisneyBlog: Some notes on the Fantasyland Expansion's impact on the Magic Kingdom next year – http://bit.ly/gdMZia – expect capac …

  11. Connie L says:

    I decided to go to Disneyland CA for my 50th birthday 2011 instead of Disney World for this reason mainly. The other is the severe Food & Wine crowds. Anyway, I would prefer to wait for the completion and see Fantasyland with out all the construction.

  12. Connie La Tempa says:

    Due to the construction, I decided to celebrate my 50th birthday in Disneyland, CA. As the majority of their construction to DCA will be done (I hope). Seeing Fantasyland in Magic Kingdom under construction takes away from the total experience. I will make sure to visit when all is done.

  13. Kelderek says:

    Think it would be better to retheme the swiss chalet as the snuggly duckling with Rapunzel’s tower in the back like the Eiffel tower at EPCOT

  14. What you need to know about the Fantasyland Expansion if you're visiting Disney World over next 18 months http://bit.ly/gdMZia plus rumors!

  15. dave says:

    We would like to see a tangled type deal go where the swiss chalet is, with wildflowers around her tower, snow white has seen its day, either overhaul, reimagine a new ride!

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  17. Splash Mtn & Big Thunder getting next-gen queues at Magic Kingdom http://bit.ly/gdMZia which other q's need the upgrade

  18. Doug Meacham says:

    RT @TheDisneyBlog: Splash Mtn & Big Thunder getting next-gen queues at Magic Kingdom http://bit.ly/gdMZia which other q's need the upgrade

  19. Luke94 says:

    RT @TheDisneyBlog: Will Magic Kingdom remove Snow White dark ride to make way for Princess meet-and-greet? http://bit.ly/gdMZia

  20. What you need to know about Fantasyland Expansion if you're visiting Disney World over next 18 months http://bit.ly/gdMZia plus new rumors!

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  22. Fantasyland Expansion at Disney World over next 18 months details + rumors. http://bit.ly/gdMZia (Via @TheDisneyBlog)

  23. Jay says:

    oh boy. Once again WDW finds a reason to keep the cheap tents. Oh sure, they say it just “temporary”, but remember the tents were “just temporary” when they were installed back in 1988. Oh well. I suppose the Circus does need tents to be themed correctly.

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  25. Walter Sobchak says:

    The most visited theme park in the world…and they’re going to close another ride? This giant expansion seems almost like a wash in the capacity department, and with Thunder Mountain 30 years old and Splash 20 (meaning frequent rehabs or a complete rebuild), the park cannot afford to gain only marginal capacity with the Mermaid ride.

    Instead of making queues interesting so they can force more people to stand in them happily, Disney really needs to add at least a few small attractions to soak up the crowds, and good ones that warrant the standing in line. Whether it be an Adventureland expansion, another New Tomorrowland, or even some more Fantasyland attractions (an Alice labyrinth, for example), Disney better outline a real expansion before closing any more attractions.

  26. JJ says:

    Do you know of plans for thefantasyland skyway….is it shut down permanently…I always enjoyed its relaxing travel. I would like it to see it actually expand and be longer.

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