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	<title>Comments on: BOLT! sucked dry by Vampire Romance Flick</title>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
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		<description>Sad to say, but Disney Animation doesn&#039;t go very far anymore. For instance, if Disney had posted a Pixar label on BOLT! then I guarantee the movie would have received way may attention and thus would have had bigger numbers opening weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to say, but Disney Animation doesn&#8217;t go very far anymore. For instance, if Disney had posted a Pixar label on BOLT! then I guarantee the movie would have received way may attention and thus would have had bigger numbers opening weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: CarolKoster</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarolKoster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see it as a one-two-three-or more punch.  

Too many &quot;dog movies&quot;:  Disney just released &quot;Beverly Hills Chihuahua&quot; only a month before.  Disney has remakes of &quot;Shaggy Dog&quot; and other recent-past dog movies in live action in the last couple of years.  Over-saturation.

What TV shows about superheroes or inside TV executives?:  Look at real life TV schedules.  There&#039;s no real series about a &#039;tween and an animal battling spies or evil minions seeking to do harm to the world.  Who lives the life of a TV producer or executive that most people would know, too?  Looks like stuff that goes on in Mom and/or Dad&#039;s offices, boring!-might be the sentiment.

Too many teen and &#039;tween movies:  In addition to the scheduling conflict the same opening day with &quot;Twilight&quot;, Disney had already released &quot;High School Musical 3&quot; mere weeks before.

Great publicity, not enough about Miley Cyrus:  Maybe I&#039;m out of the loop about the whole Miley Cyrus/Hannah Montana thing, but had Dsiney promoted, more, Miley Cyrus had a lead role and also had some songs, maybe more people would have gone.  Maybe.

&#039;Tweens maybe have outgrown &quot;cartoons&quot;:  Our son is age 12.  He was mortified to be there with his parents to see the latest Disney movie!  We went to a 7:45 pm showing on Friday, wide release day.  Our multiplex was buzzing and filled with teenage girls.  In line with us, some were daring each other to buy a ticket to &quot;Bolt&quot; and it was easy to overhear this kind of sentiment:  &quot;Are you kidding???  I&#039;m not seeing &quot;Bolt&quot;, c&#039;mON!!!&quot;

Maybe they only like Miley as &quot;Hannah&quot;-only.  Maybe they are that &quot;selective&quot;.  And they already have seen the 3-D &quot;Best of Both Worlds&quot; on Disney Channel and DVD umpteen times, whereas a movie made of a favorite book series with a romantic male lead what the latest &quot;in&quot; thing to do.

Proven formula in Hollywood = cast a handsome romantic male lead in role of &quot;vampire&quot;:  Trace any &quot;Dracula&quot;-type movie in Hollywood history then ask around among those who&#039;ve seen them, wicked attractiveness and safe seduction are part of this type of movie.  You can&#039;t swoon in exactly this same way over an animated movie about a dog or the voice artists in that movie.

&quot;I&#039;ve got your number&quot; from other animation studios:  You can&#039;t dismiss that &quot;Madagascar 2&quot; got mediocre reviews just like &quot;Twilight&quot; did but audiences flocked to both anyway.  If the Dreamworks movie hadn&#039;t also still been in the marketplace &quot;Bolt&quot; would have done better.  &quot;Madagascar&quot; did as much to suck life out of &quot;Bolt&quot; as &quot;Twilight&quot; did.

History of Disney Feature Animation the last 10 years and you see the history of Disney being eaten for lunch by others:  Trace the box office of Disney Feature Animation the last 10 years, then the box office of Pixar the last 10 years, then the box office of any other studio doing CGI the last 10 years.  Not only is there increased competition, but now that Pixar is part of Disney Pixar is still competing with Disney and does Disney better than Disney does Disney, as well as other studios can actually achieve #1 at the box office not only for their weeks of release to theatres, but for that whole year.  Disney has let itself slide in a core company division.  Disney now is trying to climb back.  But now we&#039;ve got other studios, including Pixar now owned by Disney, who are in public &quot;brand consciousness&quot; as doing at least as good as if not better than Disney.  All CGI now looks alike, comes out of the same vat.  Except for Pixar, most audiences know it&#039;s quality and stick by it.  But even there, the pie of box office gets split into smaller slices, and audiences might have too many choices out there now.  Even Pixar doesn&#039;t command the huge box office that, say, &quot;Finding Nemo&quot; did in it&#039;s day.  Too much competition.

Pixar vs. Disney:  Disney certainly has marketed Pooh, Lion King, Princesses, and now Tinker Bell.  These are characters of Disney&#039;s past, however.  The more recent characters are all Pixar (Toy Story, Wall-E, Cars, etc.) and audiences go to what they like and is proven.  Did, say, &quot;Home on the Range&quot; toys sell vs. &quot;Cars&quot;?  Audiences need convincing Disney is truly &quot;back&quot; to their old, classic, form.  &#039;Til that happens, it&#039;s become a Pixarified world.

The ad campaign for &quot;Bolt&quot; was good.  I certainly got the message and our family supported the film.  

What I&#039;m concerned abuot is &quot;The Princess and the Frog&quot;, the December 25, 2009 Disney animated film set in our hometown of New Orleans.  We&#039;re psyched for this!  Can&#039;t wait!  Our culture and music will shine, and the first African-American Disney Princess will join the others Disney promotes.  But is this lack of getting the word across effectively &quot;Disney Feature Animation is BACK!&quot; that affected &quot;Bolt&quot; going to affect &quot;The Princess and the Frog&quot;?  And can 2-D animation draw them in, can the composer of scores for Pixar movies draw them in for a Disney Feature Animation movie?  Will all audience demographic segments support this movie?  Will the classic heart, quality of story, depth of characters be there that we&#039;ve come to expect of Disney be there vs. how Disney&#039;s been the last decade?

&quot;Bolt&quot; is a step up the ladder towards better times to come for Disney, I am convinced of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see it as a one-two-three-or more punch.  </p>
<p>Too many &#8220;dog movies&#8221;:  Disney just released &#8220;Beverly Hills Chihuahua&#8221; only a month before.  Disney has remakes of &#8220;Shaggy Dog&#8221; and other recent-past dog movies in live action in the last couple of years.  Over-saturation.</p>
<p>What TV shows about superheroes or inside TV executives?:  Look at real life TV schedules.  There&#8217;s no real series about a &#8216;tween and an animal battling spies or evil minions seeking to do harm to the world.  Who lives the life of a TV producer or executive that most people would know, too?  Looks like stuff that goes on in Mom and/or Dad&#8217;s offices, boring!-might be the sentiment.</p>
<p>Too many teen and &#8216;tween movies:  In addition to the scheduling conflict the same opening day with &#8220;Twilight&#8221;, Disney had already released &#8220;High School Musical 3&#8243; mere weeks before.</p>
<p>Great publicity, not enough about Miley Cyrus:  Maybe I&#8217;m out of the loop about the whole Miley Cyrus/Hannah Montana thing, but had Dsiney promoted, more, Miley Cyrus had a lead role and also had some songs, maybe more people would have gone.  Maybe.</p>
<p>&#8216;Tweens maybe have outgrown &#8220;cartoons&#8221;:  Our son is age 12.  He was mortified to be there with his parents to see the latest Disney movie!  We went to a 7:45 pm showing on Friday, wide release day.  Our multiplex was buzzing and filled with teenage girls.  In line with us, some were daring each other to buy a ticket to &#8220;Bolt&#8221; and it was easy to overhear this kind of sentiment:  &#8220;Are you kidding???  I&#8217;m not seeing &#8220;Bolt&#8221;, c&#8217;mON!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe they only like Miley as &#8220;Hannah&#8221;-only.  Maybe they are that &#8220;selective&#8221;.  And they already have seen the 3-D &#8220;Best of Both Worlds&#8221; on Disney Channel and DVD umpteen times, whereas a movie made of a favorite book series with a romantic male lead what the latest &#8220;in&#8221; thing to do.</p>
<p>Proven formula in Hollywood = cast a handsome romantic male lead in role of &#8220;vampire&#8221;:  Trace any &#8220;Dracula&#8221;-type movie in Hollywood history then ask around among those who&#8217;ve seen them, wicked attractiveness and safe seduction are part of this type of movie.  You can&#8217;t swoon in exactly this same way over an animated movie about a dog or the voice artists in that movie.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve got your number&#8221; from other animation studios:  You can&#8217;t dismiss that &#8220;Madagascar 2&#8243; got mediocre reviews just like &#8220;Twilight&#8221; did but audiences flocked to both anyway.  If the Dreamworks movie hadn&#8217;t also still been in the marketplace &#8220;Bolt&#8221; would have done better.  &#8220;Madagascar&#8221; did as much to suck life out of &#8220;Bolt&#8221; as &#8220;Twilight&#8221; did.</p>
<p>History of Disney Feature Animation the last 10 years and you see the history of Disney being eaten for lunch by others:  Trace the box office of Disney Feature Animation the last 10 years, then the box office of Pixar the last 10 years, then the box office of any other studio doing CGI the last 10 years.  Not only is there increased competition, but now that Pixar is part of Disney Pixar is still competing with Disney and does Disney better than Disney does Disney, as well as other studios can actually achieve #1 at the box office not only for their weeks of release to theatres, but for that whole year.  Disney has let itself slide in a core company division.  Disney now is trying to climb back.  But now we&#8217;ve got other studios, including Pixar now owned by Disney, who are in public &#8220;brand consciousness&#8221; as doing at least as good as if not better than Disney.  All CGI now looks alike, comes out of the same vat.  Except for Pixar, most audiences know it&#8217;s quality and stick by it.  But even there, the pie of box office gets split into smaller slices, and audiences might have too many choices out there now.  Even Pixar doesn&#8217;t command the huge box office that, say, &#8220;Finding Nemo&#8221; did in it&#8217;s day.  Too much competition.</p>
<p>Pixar vs. Disney:  Disney certainly has marketed Pooh, Lion King, Princesses, and now Tinker Bell.  These are characters of Disney&#8217;s past, however.  The more recent characters are all Pixar (Toy Story, Wall-E, Cars, etc.) and audiences go to what they like and is proven.  Did, say, &#8220;Home on the Range&#8221; toys sell vs. &#8220;Cars&#8221;?  Audiences need convincing Disney is truly &#8220;back&#8221; to their old, classic, form.  &#8216;Til that happens, it&#8217;s become a Pixarified world.</p>
<p>The ad campaign for &#8220;Bolt&#8221; was good.  I certainly got the message and our family supported the film.  </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m concerned abuot is &#8220;The Princess and the Frog&#8221;, the December 25, 2009 Disney animated film set in our hometown of New Orleans.  We&#8217;re psyched for this!  Can&#8217;t wait!  Our culture and music will shine, and the first African-American Disney Princess will join the others Disney promotes.  But is this lack of getting the word across effectively &#8220;Disney Feature Animation is BACK!&#8221; that affected &#8220;Bolt&#8221; going to affect &#8220;The Princess and the Frog&#8221;?  And can 2-D animation draw them in, can the composer of scores for Pixar movies draw them in for a Disney Feature Animation movie?  Will all audience demographic segments support this movie?  Will the classic heart, quality of story, depth of characters be there that we&#8217;ve come to expect of Disney be there vs. how Disney&#8217;s been the last decade?</p>
<p>&#8220;Bolt&#8221; is a step up the ladder towards better times to come for Disney, I am convinced of that.</p>
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